Browns Gas?

TerrontheSnake · #1 06-23-2009, 04:07 PM

Does anyone know if a small browns gas generator will have much affect on a small motor? 2stroke/4stroke doesn't matter. Also would the small stator(magneto) be enough to power the generator, or would you need to use another power source?

zero240sx · #2 06-23-2009, 06:18 PM

great question... i have made a fuel cell for my car and with 12 volts from battery, but i think half the volts from the magneto will be fine with a motor that is probably a 20th the size of the car motor. But only for a steady stream of hydrogen to help assist the fuel to burn smoother. im not an expert but i have put alot of time in research and experiment. i have seen a lawnmower ran solely by browns gas but it was an enormous machine that pumped it and therefore not really a good idea. i would love to try it out though once i get mine going...great idea

TerrontheSnake · #3 06-23-2009, 07:56 PM

Thats is actually my intention. I would like to find a way to generate enough to run a small motor for a bicycle type application. I have thought about using two five spoke wheels spokes wrapped in a copper coil on the bike and those would run an ac coil generator built into the forks to create five strong electrical pulses per wheel rotation. Theoreticaly this could generate a decent amout of juice. Question is about how to or whether or not to rectify it, browns gas generators require a specific anode and cathode right?

zero240sx · #4 07-01-2009, 05:45 PM

if your bike itself could generate the electricity you would still have to have the machine strapped to the bike somewhere... but the size it would take alot oh space...also you would probably still have to charge the battery every now and then.....im wondering if it would be more trouble than having an electric bike.

it is best to use stainless steel in the generator but you still have to clean them out every now and then and change the water and the additive. seems like alot of trouble but i sorta have this idea. ill explain in next post.

zero240sx · #5 07-01-2009, 06:07 PM

ok.... im not meaning to sound negative here....i have just spent too much time and money in HHO.

i started it because i wanted to save money in gas....for my car without spending alot of money. that is why most people do this.

most people who do this would rather have an electric car but we cant afford it....so we tinker with these machines you can get for little money.

so with that thought....bikes are alot easier to convert to electric and would cost close to the same as trying to run one solely on HHO gas...if possible.

so what im saying is "it would be easier and just as expencive to get an electric kit with a great battery and have an electric bike as it would to get a gas bike kit...tune it to run on HHO...make a HHO machine...get a battery to run it, and maybe make a generator to charge it as well... then the daily and weekly and monthly upkeep...as well as all of the weight and space all this will take up sheww......seems like alot of trouble......compaired to the purpose people started this for....cars.....this might need some discussion to explain my thoughts about this....ask away!

PS i wouldnt mind haveing one to tie into my tribrid(gas,electric,peddle)bicycle since i already have the batteries. and charger.or use the little white cable coming from the magneto.

TerrontheSnake · #6 07-08-2009, 06:42 PM

OK, so cost and eaze not really my intention here. I am an inventor by nature and I like doing what other people have not or can not. I have built a few HHO gas generators for some of my friends with great success. I understand the science behind it rather well. I am mostly inspired by Tesla whom was capable of things that would still be regarded as "magic" due to sciences limited imagination. My intention is to use a small cc engine and I want enough "browns gas" being generated to actually run it rather than just an additive that improves things. I have seen it done on a streetbike, it can be done! The only constraint I am very concerned about is being able to make the electricity to run the generator. BTW I want to say that I appreciate your responses and feedback thank you!

zero240sx · #7 07-09-2009, 06:14 PM

i believe ive seen that street bike as well... i really would like to see it dont on a small engine as well. maybe with a 6v 30ohm lithium battery and a HHO dry-cell generator mounted on a rack topped with a solar panel the same size with the electric generators that kick in when using your brakes along with the 6 volt from the magneto. my guess is you couldnt use a 2-stroke because the oil mixing problem so i guess a small 4 stroke... im not sure how you adjust the timing but i heard you have to because the browns gas burns so quick.
If i had a extra few grand lying around i would surely try it.... it would be a great accomplishment.

TerrontheSnake · #8 07-09-2009, 07:09 PM

Thanks a lot for that tidbit, I'll let you know what I find, mind you it could take me a few years to pull it off.

TerrontheSnake · #9 07-09-2009, 07:48 PM

But, if it is a single cylinder then there is no timing to adjust, it just tuning it in as far as gas to air ratios go. The thing is that the HHO gas has it's own oxygen in the gas as it is just the seperated hydrogen and oxygen. Also what makes a better additive, I know some types gunk up really fast, and obviously require more maintenance because of that. I want good results but I also want as little gunk up as possible.

alaina · #10 08-29-2011, 07:44 AM

The current theory of Brown's Gas states that Brown's Gas is a mixture of di-atomic and mon-atomic hydrogen and oxygen.
The simplest way to make Brown's Gas is to use an electrolyzer, which uses electricity to split water into its elements of hydrogen and oxygen. At the instant that the water splits, the hydrogen and oxygen are in their mon-atomic state, this is H for hydrogen and O for oxygen.

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